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Wesley Peters
Location: Niverville, MB
Joined: 12.05.2019

Dec 11 @ 2:37 AM ET
Wesley Peters: Poor Detroit
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 8:21 AM ET

Don't see any reason why we shouldn't see more of the same in the rematch.

Onwards and upwards for the Jets. Good team effort!
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Dec 11 @ 8:28 AM ET
Wesley
Peters: Poor Detroit

- Wesley Peters


Poor Comrie!

That 4th line seem to be getting more playing time tonite. Shore is going to pot a goal here shortly and looks Ok. 4th line is taking shape and with Appleton getting some conditioning with the Moose, should be some good competition going forward.
PrairieFire
Joined: 09.04.2006

Dec 11 @ 8:30 AM ET
I agree...it seems that the 4th line has some much needed grit now.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Dec 11 @ 9:37 AM ET
Nice win against a weak Wings team. Now they have to continue this good play in Detroit.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Dec 11 @ 12:40 PM ET
Wesley
Peters: Poor Detroit

- Wesley Peters


Can we extend Sbisa already. 2 years 900k AAV, 1-way. The guy is fast, reliable, and hits. Whats not to love. Ideally, him and Poolman would make a great, affordable shut down 5/6 pairing. He looked very solid paired with Pionk last night, and has shown improvements every game.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Dec 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
Can we extend Sbisa already. 2 years 900k AAV, 1-way. The guy is fast, reliable, and hits. Whats not to love. Ideally, him and Poolman would make a great, affordable shut down 5/6 pairing. He looked very solid paired with Pionk last night, and has shown improvements every game.
- bikeguy99


Aren't you the guy who was giving Roslovic 5 million a few weeks ago? You an agent trying to oversell your clients value?
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 11 @ 2:48 PM ET
So this morning when I came into work, I realized that one of my co-workers was not wearing workplace appropriate clothes. I thought I would take Jetsnation's and 2.0's advice and do some gentle ribbing. I decided to throw her parka into the shower.

Unfortunately she did not like the prank I played on her. I told her to relax as Byfuglien or whoever did that Kane, and its all in good fun. My co-worker ended up telling my supervisor of what occurred. I got called into a meeting with HR and my supervisor. I told them I was policing the team and ensuring we are all wearing work appropriate clothing. Apparently that answer did not go over well like I was told it would on hockeybuzz.

Subsequently I have been told to stay home from work and that I am not to return until I get a psychiatric evaluation. I also have to pay my co-worker restitution money so she can purchase a new parka, and write a letter of apology if I intend to stay at my current place of employment.

Let this be a lesson to everyone, don't take advice you receive on hockeybuzz.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Dec 11 @ 2:54 PM ET
lol. good for laugh UJ, solid advice - trust me.

jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Dec 11 @ 3:40 PM ET
UJ. I know your just kidding around with this example although it really doesn't relate in any fashion to Kane's situation. You must realize that a hockey team is like a "band of brothers" , a "fraternity" if you will. It has certain codes you must follow. Breaking those codes comes with a price. Kane should have taken it like a man instead of crying like a baby......Bottom line. He paid the price for being a baby about it. Good riddance.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Dec 11 @ 4:36 PM ET
UJ. I know your just kidding around with this example although it really doesn't relate in any fashion to Kane's situation. You must realize that a hockey team is like a "band of brothers" , a "fraternity" if you will. It has certain codes you must follow. Breaking those codes comes with a price. Kane should have taken it like a man instead of crying like a baby......Bottom line. He paid the price for being a baby about it. Good riddance.
- jetsnation


WOW! Except the incident was that he wasn't dressed in a shirt and tie like you said yourself.
So I guess you only have to dress professionally not act as one in the NHL.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 11 @ 5:32 PM ET
UJ. I know your just kidding around with this example although it really doesn't relate in any fashion to Kane's situation. You must realize that a hockey team is like a "band of brothers" , a "fraternity" if you will. It has certain codes you must follow. Breaking those codes comes with a price. Kane should have taken it like a man instead of crying like a baby......Bottom line. He paid the price for being a baby about it. Good riddance.
- jetsnation


Hard to believe that someone is grieving the loss of Evander Kane from the Jets, isn't it?
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Dec 11 @ 5:34 PM ET
WOW! Except the incident was that he wasn't dressed in a shirt and tie like you said yourself.
So I guess you only have to dress professionally not act as one in the NHL.

- BWJumper


Good leaders get their hands dirty, just the way it is. Interventions happen at 1000 different levels - from international conflict to the 10yo on the playground to parents putting their kids to bed.

Pro teams don't have time for waste waiting for maturity to happen - it is way too competitive for that. Ideally Kane apologizes and changes his ways and the team refocuses on hockey fairly quickly. In his own wisdom he decided that his freedom to wear whatever he wanted was more important than the team and he wasn't willing to move ahead. Personally I would be fine hearing he was wearing the clothes when they were put in the shower/tub.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 11 @ 5:42 PM ET
Hard to believe that someone is grieving the loss of Evander Kane from the Jets, isn't it?
- grahamzky


No one is grieving the loss of Evander Kane from the Jets.

No one should also be grieving the loss of Byfuglien. Like Trevor Kidd on the radio said, this team has cohesion and that bringing Buff back could upset that. I am baffled that some would want an alleged bully that had ruffled feathers back in the locker room.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Dec 11 @ 7:31 PM ET
Good leaders get their hands dirty, just the way it is. Interventions happen at 1000 different levels - from international conflict to the 10yo on the playground to parents putting their kids to bed.

Pro teams don't have time for waste waiting for maturity to happen - it is way too competitive for that. Ideally Kane apologizes and changes his ways and the team refocuses on hockey fairly quickly. In his own wisdom he decided that his freedom to wear whatever he wanted was more important than the team and he wasn't willing to move ahead. Personally I would be fine hearing he was wearing the clothes when they were put in the shower/tub.

- 2.0


So you are fine for players to be physically assaulted for dress code violations.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Dec 11 @ 8:24 PM ET
At this point, I am seeing cohesion in this group. Making some hay with an average D.

I am hesitant to bring Buff back at this point. Yes, he would likely be better on the PP but he perfected his craft over a period of time and Pionk has a total of 128 NHL games or something like that and seems coachable.

It seems to be working the way it is and Buf will be 35 in March.....and hasn't skated in a year, contemplating retirement, maybe some personal issues maybe................I dunno know, but I am hesitant to introduce a strong personality back into this group.

Lots of new faces in this group........they seem to be following the leadership, buying in. 4th line is entirely new except for Moose Shaw, ......Shore, Borque, Sbisa, Biteto, Pionck, Poolman was Moose all last year.

A very consistent goalie certainly helps as well but I am not so sure on the chemistry at the moment and how Buf might affect it.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Dec 11 @ 10:21 PM ET
So you are fine for players to be physically assaulted for dress code violations.
- BWJumper


If respect for team expectations is the goal of the intervention and it has been approached starting with the minimum level of intervention (ie. he is reminded that the team has a standard and he is in non-compliance and escalated as needed from there), and if no deliberate injury is caused then yes I am fine with that. It is important to remember that Kane started it, not Buff and most likely this was not the first time Kane pushed the issue.

Like Kenny Rogers said, 'sometimes you have to fight when you're a man'
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Dec 12 @ 8:04 AM ET
If respect for team expectations is the goal of the intervention and it has been approached starting with the minimum level of intervention (ie. he is reminded that the team has a standard and he is in non-compliance and escalated as needed from there), and if no deliberate injury is caused then yes I am fine with that. It is important to remember that Kane started it, not Buff and most likely this was not the first time Kane pushed the issue.

Like Kenny Rogers said, 'sometimes you have to fight when you're a man'

- 2.0


Was the incident in question not "the final straw" of a number of Kane incidents that happened - both on and off the ice?
Pete DeBoer fired in San Jose. H-m-m-m? Wonder, who's next on the chopping block? If this keeps up, there be an opening for a head coaching position,in the NHL for one of us. lol
But then again, who would want it?
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Dec 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
Trouba held out and also in the interim there was the bit about him not wanting to be in Winnipeg ( which was true). Yet when he finally signed all was good again amongst his teammates. The same would happen with Buff. If he wants to come back and play and shows up in good shape with a positive attitude then he would be a great asset for the Jets.

I'm not the only one who thinks so...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...lien-come-back-right-now/
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 12 @ 1:57 PM ET
Trouba held out and also in the interim there was the bit about him not wanting to be in Winnipeg ( which was true). Yet when he finally signed all was good again amongst his teammates. The same would happen with Buff. If he wants to come back and play and shows up in good shape with a positive attitude then he would be a great asset for the Jets.

I'm not the only one who thinks so...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...lien-come-back-right-now/

- jetsnation

I think he makes for a better trade asset.
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 12 @ 1:57 PM ET
Was the incident in question not "the final straw" of a number of Kane incidents that happened - both on and off the ice?
Pete DeBoer fired in San Jose. H-m-m-m? Wonder, who's next on the chopping block? If this keeps up, there be an opening for a head coaching position,in the NHL for one of us. lol
But then again, who would want it?

- grahamzky

I would definitely take it! It would be Ultimate
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Dec 12 @ 2:03 PM ET
I am providing a December 3 interview with Evander Kane explaining the track suit incident. View for yourself and form your own opinion.

This was discussed this morning on TSN Big Show and I am of the same opinion as Troy and company. He doesn't take responsibility for anything in my opinion.

Being an @$$hole transcends race and you don't need to be this racial heritage or that racial heritage to qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VugHYJvyR98

Laughable.

BTW folks, this board keeps bringing up bullying and I have a good reliable intelligence right from the source that my favourite player, Buf was bullied as a youngster. It apparently was his grandpa that got him focused on hockey to lift this small town kid to focus on hockey and eventually out of Roseau.

Now, can we talk about hockey because an @$$hole is an @$$hole despite race, creed, religion, gender, etc.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Dec 12 @ 2:20 PM ET
UJ. I know your just kidding around with this example although it really doesn't relate in any fashion to Kane's situation. You must realize that a hockey team is like a "band of brothers" , a "fraternity" if you will. It has certain codes you must follow. Breaking those codes comes with a price. Kane should have taken it like a man instead of crying like a baby......Bottom line. He paid the price for being a baby about it. Good riddance.
- jetsnation



BTW, listening to Big Show and Ruicky said he was in the dressing room after a practice and Kane was being interviewed. Apparently, after a practice the rules are you have to be wearing a shirt where it has a Jets logo. Kane had a shirt on but no Jets logo. Wheeler came in and said, "Can someone get Evander a shirt"? Kane pipes up from the interview, "No, I am OK".

So, the band of brothers all adhere to the rules but Evander doesn't. No, I am OK. Then, he complains that I was not allowed to be different in Wpg.

This is not an example of a team player. This is someone that will not be part of the team rules and then complains that he was not allowed to be different.

So, everyone has their opinion but I bet there is no one sad he is not part of this organization anymore.

But, it's not his fault, its someone else's fault. A typical response for a narcissist.

TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 12 @ 6:14 PM ET
BTW, listening to Big Show and Ruicky said he was in the dressing room after a practice and Kane was being interviewed. Apparently, after a practice the rules are you have to be wearing a shirt where it has a Jets logo. Kane had a shirt on but no Jets logo. Wheeler came in and said, "Can someone get Evander a shirt"? Kane pipes up from the interview, "No, I am OK".

So, the band of brothers all adhere to the rules but Evander doesn't. No, I am OK. Then, he complains that I was not allowed to be different in Wpg.

This is not an example of a team player. This is someone that will not be part of the team rules and then complains that he was not allowed to be different.

So, everyone has their opinion but I bet there is no one sad he is not part of this organization anymore.

But, it's not his fault, its someone else's fault. A typical response for a narcissist.

- CharlieDog

No one is saying that Kane was a saint. All that is being said is that Byfuglien is a bully. No doubt about it.

I think the Jets should trade Byfuglien to Tampa Bay for Tyler Johnson.


2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Dec 12 @ 6:35 PM ET
I am providing a December 3 interview with Evander Kane explaining the track suit incident. View for yourself and form your own opinion.

This was discussed this morning on TSN Big Show and I am of the same opinion as Troy and company. He doesn't take responsibility for anything in my opinion.

Being an @$$hole transcends race and you don't need to be this racial heritage or that racial heritage to qualify.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VugHYJvyR98

Laughable.

BTW folks, this board keeps bringing up bullying and I have a good reliable intelligence right from the source that my favourite player, Buf was bullied as a youngster. It apparently was his grandpa that got him focused on hockey to lift this small town kid to focus on hockey and eventually out of Roseau.

Now, can we talk about hockey because an @$$hole is an @$$hole despite race, creed, religion, gender, etc.

- CharlieDog


Kane represented himself well in the interview, was clear and believable on what he said (Kristine Leahy did not seem familiar with the issues). Interesting that he said he requested a trade every year he was in Wpg, said 95% of fans were good to him.
Clearly he doesn't like it that his clothes were referred to as a track suit. Nothing to hate in the interview.

I feel he avoided any reference to conflict with any teammates very deliberately - good decision Evander. He was never grilled for any details, this interview gave him a chance to present the facts on his terms and in his words.
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